January 17, 2025
It’s far too early to say the basic materials stocks like VALE, and BHP are turning around, yet they all had very high volume on the turn higher yesterday, and I have been waiting patiently for them to put a bottom in. Situations like this can take time, so patience is necessary, but since we are in a commodity bull market and the USD appears to have at least found a temporary top, I am inclined to start a position in Vale soon. When they have growing earnings they pay out some hefty dividends. I typically wait for an uptrend to be established, as defined by the daily moving averages all heading higher with the 50 day above the 200 day MA, but that will take some time to materialize in Vale, as its trading so far below the MAs. These cases can work well, and the position can get profitable right out of the gate, though a rip-roaring bull will not come soon. First the stock has to bottom, like we might be seeing now, then it gets a decent rally into the moving averages or some trendlines where it will take time to get through them, and trade solidly above. Only then do momentum and trend traders come into the stock, and we get a smoother and more significant ride higher. However, if Vale can pay some dividends to me while I wait, and I can be up 15-20% on the position quickly, I don’t mind buying earlier than I normally would. I haven’t decided to buy yet, and since its Friday before a long holiday, I will not buy until next week if I decide to get involved. Here are the monthly and weekly charts, the monthly goes back twenty years, and both show stochastics in oversold territory.